Emotional intelligence
In this episode, Holly Berrube unpacks the significance of emotional intelligence in building successful relationships. From self-awareness to social awareness, understanding ourselves and others is vital. The power of effective communication plays a crucial role in getting what we want and need.
What You'll Discover:
Empowering Women: It's Time to Speak Up
Learn why it's essential for women to support one another in expressing their needs and desires without fear or hesitation.
Society's expectation of constant strength shouldn't rob us of our ability to communicate freely.
Expanding our Emotional Vocabulary for Deeper Connections
Explore the importance of enhancing our ability to describe thoughts, feelings, and emotions for more meaningful relationships.
Becoming emotionally literate can transform the way we relate to others.
Finding Purpose in Every Season of Life
Understand how our purpose and calling evolve.
Discover the key to living purposefully while staying true to our emotions.
Holly Berube is an expert in emotional intelligence, relationships, mindfulness, and leadership. With over 20+ years of experience in public education, leadership training, and personal development coaching, she has supported thousands of people in managing their emotions, building relationships, and navigating goals to create the life they want.
In this chapter of her career, Holly is a Mentor & Coach for Mamas (and some dads!) of Teens and Young Adults and a Corporate Leadership Trainer for small to medium-sized businesses. She is also the host of The Holly Berube Podcast - THE place for insights, advice, and real talk for Mamas of Teens and Young Adults.
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[00:00:00] Monica: Good morning fire starters. I'm here with the one and only Holly Berube, also soon to be Holly Hibbert because you're getting married. My emotional intelligence queen. What is happening, girl? Tell me what is good in your life.
[00:00:16] Holly: Oh, goodness. What a great question to start with. What is good in my life? My family is doing really well. Getting married is very exciting. This is my second marriage in my life, and I was single for about I don't know, seven or eight years before this relationship came to be. So there's that. I have a nine year old as a result of this relationship, so I'm getting to finally be a mom of a girl. So that's super exciting. This pivot in my career is super exciting of working with parents of teenagers and young adults and the passion being lit up in me again, talk about kindling, right? That has been a feeling that I haven't had for a little bit of a season. So that feels really good too.
[00:00:58] Monica: I think that's, it's so important what [00:01:00] you just said that is, but you are taking the time to listen to those inner whispers and maybe know, okay, perhaps it's time to pivot, because we should always feel that sort of excitement, those goosebumps. You know that when you start talking really fast because you get so excited about what you're doing? Sometimes we get too flat. And when I always say, if you're flat, I maybe start really asking some tough questions. Perhaps it's time to redirect. So one of the things that I really wanted to talk with you about today is, aside from your business, I just really wanna know the essence of you, Holly, but what exactly do you stand for and what do you believe in?
[00:01:36] Holly: Thank you so much for that. I, I received that and I think what I believe in is authenticity, and it's tempting to say I believe in transparency, although I think there's a distinction to be made between authenticity and transparency. Authenticity to me is expressing a point of view, a new perspective. It's new to people because it's my perspective and no one is [00:02:00] me. I think that authenticity, unlike transparency, also requires me to implement boundaries. This is what I am willing to share. This is what I am not willing to share and meeting myself. In the middle of how ready am I to deliver this message? So I believe in authenticity I, and in order for that to happen, I also believe in creating a safe, emotional, and psychological space for people to show up in that way and be authentic. And so that happens by creating cultures in families and in the workplace where emotional intelligence is honored, encouraged, it's revered. It's, it's a aim, it's a goal and I think. That really sums it up. I think in a, in a nutshell, there's so many other things too. Compassion, kindness, honesty, passion. And at the root of it, it's am I really living and expressing authentically who I am, what I believe in, and the difference I believe I can [00:03:00] make.
[00:03:00] Monica: Yeah, and we were just talking offline a little bit before we got on and we were talking about that disconnect of wanting to come through this way and how sometimes that rawness can maybe put people off. Not uncomfortable, but I feel I'm a blogger and, and when I blog about things that aren't, I guess what people are like, why are you sharing your personal messiness with us? It's like, because from that I feel like I'm, I'm my honest self, this is where I'm at, and it's not always unicorns and rainbows. And there are times when I do struggle. So sharing that and putting it on the world and connecting with other, it really helps me. Can you share a little bit about how you got to this point? Where emotional intelligence, by the way, explain that, because that's a very heightened awareness to be in, and not only to be mindful of it, but to also coach others on it.
[00:03:47] Holly: Thank you for asking me to define it. Emotional intelligence encompasses different categories of how we interact with others in our life and how we interact with ourselves. And so [00:04:00] the categories of emotional intelligence include things like my self-awareness, how much do I notice, my thoughts, my feelings, my emotions. Social awareness, what that encompasses is, am I noticing other people's thoughts, emotions, and feelings? Emotional intelligence is also how we build and nurture and maintain our relationships. So anything relationship focused is emotional intelligence related. Communication is another facet of emotional intelligence. Do we ask for what we want and what we need? Do we even know what we want and what we need? And the last component of emotional intelligence is decision making. So our ability to trust ourselves to make those decisions that we feel are in the best interest of us, and those are around us, or our lack of trust in ourselves, or belief that we can make the best decision. That is also tied to our emotional intelligence. So when we think of someone who is seeing [00:05:00] a counselor or a therapist, we will refer to mental health and wellbeing, and I would say that emotional intelligence is more about your emotional wellness and how you navigate the messes and the joys of your emotions.
[00:05:16] Monica: So what, what percentage, honestly, do you think, Are walking around, A. Thinking that they have that high IQ and they don't, or otherwise, like I feel like this is a, a really a missing component in our society. And you must be overbooked. Like are you just sold out you're coaching because this is really needed, right?
[00:05:35] Holly: Yeah. It's I'm not sold out yet and I'm looking forward to being sold out with this. I think I agree with you a hundred percent that this is a massive. Missing piece of the puzzle. It's an elephant in the room, and the elephant is invisible, meaning there's something people are sensing is missing. That's keeping us from asking [00:06:00] better questions, being curious with people instead of being judgmental with people. How do I communicate with others so that they get my point and my perspective? So I quote, must learn better communication, unquote. People will say these things all the time. The key to a successful relationship is to communicate better. Yes, we've heard it a million times over. And who's teaching it? Like who's teach, and that is where I come in. That is where this need has come up is people know they want that elephant, they want to be able to do that thing, but we don't have the language to describe what it is we're looking for. So I think the majority of the population is walking around, and I, I also wanna make a distinction between someone's IQ and their EQ. An IQ is our intellectual quotient. It has to do with how academically intelligent that we are. Our EQ is our emotional quotient, and they're not related. Something I've [00:07:00] discovered by putting content out is when I say emotional intelligence, there is push back the same people in one sentence who are saying communication is the key. Being kind to one another is the key. In another post, I can say emotional intelligence, and the same folks are pushing back and saying, I'm really smart. I should be able to do this. Swt to shake myself and remind myself, Holly, not everyone knows that your intellectual intelligence and your emotional intelligence, your IQ and your EQ are not the same thing. So we can make ourselves smarter and smarter and more educated in our iq, but in our emotional quotient, can we implement it? Do we know how to use it? Do we feel psychologically and emotionally safe enough to practice it? And I wanna tell people flat out, if you lack emotional intelligence, it doesn't mean you're dumb. You're prob, you're probably actually really smart because you are searching for, what's that feeling that's in the room? I just [00:08:00] can't place my finger on.
[00:08:01] Monica: So true that that's a really good distinction. Now what I love what you're doing, listen, I am a mom of a 20 year old and an 18 year old, and you are laser focusing now on the Gen Z. Right? Tell me about that, because I think you're hitting such a sweet spot and this is such an important conversation.
[00:08:20] Holly: Thank you. I have had a passion in my heart for working with teenagers and young adults for over 20 years. It actually started when I was still a young adult myself. And long story short my senior year of college, I was supposed to apply to medical school and I caught mono. And I missed all my med school interviews and I was bedridden for two months. So I decided in my year before going to med school, I'd become, I get a teaching certificate. And lo and behold, the minute I walked into a classroom full of seventh graders and it was loud and chaotic, I fell in love. I loved that there was nothing predictable. I [00:09:00] loved that it was a consistent challenge. I loved watching how these young people worked with one another or didn't, and it was a consistent puzzle of how do I get them to see eye to eye and understand one another even if they don't relate to one another? And I love that their brains were undeveloped and they simply wanted and needed guidance and structure on how to get those connected pathways in their brain. So I went into teaching and my background is in secondary science education. I taught middle school and high school science for 10 years, and left teaching public education in 2014 to pursue coaching because simply I wanted to make a bigger impact using the same mentorship and coaching. And so over the years I've coached on relationships, and now I've come full circle as I've shifted in my life from the single life and helping single people and marital issues and helping people work through that. Now I'm back to being a family woman because of my own personal life and my [00:10:00] marriage and my my nine year old, and my heart is now back to young people. I have always believed that being with teenagers and young adults, the number one thing that I brought to the classroom was my ability to see them as people, not only a young person, but see them as a person, not my student, not someone I am in charge of. Although that was true also, I had parents who would come to me when I was a classroom teacher and they would say through email or at conferences, I need your advice. And they would run something by me that's happening at home. And I would stop them and say, now I was 26 years old at the time. And I would say to them, you know, I'm not a mother, right? Like I am a teacher, but I'm not a mother. And they would say to me, yes, but we trust you because my kid loves you. My kid respects you, and you have 150 of them a day. And I have one. And I can't handle it, so help me. So I've had apparently [00:11:00] a secret sauce this whole time of being able to work with young people in a way that I'm not trying to be cool mom status or anything like that. I'm just keeping it very practical of non-judgment. Very open-minded, very welcoming, and again, emotional and psychological safety. Letting them know that they have permission to explore their thoughts, feelings, and emotions in my presence, in my classroom. Have lunch with me on my lunch break when I was a teacher. Even it was just to sit there and they could sit and be in silence and have some peace and quiet, and I wasn't going to be badgering them or questioning or asking why, and I really feel that, you know, and those were millennials I was teaching now with Gen Z, who currently are between the ages of 11 and 26, because especially of lockdown and pandemic, yes, we have become aware of the academic slide and how that has impacted and put a lot of students academically behind. But the [00:12:00] emotional impact I feel has gotten less attention. And now that we're almost three years out from that happening, I am afraid that parents and educators, yeah, they might have it in their faith day to day, but I think it can be so easy to allow the world and the narrative to tell us everything's fine. Everything's back to normal, just go and they don't have a quote, normal to go back to. So that's where I come in and that's why I'm so passionate about this work.
[00:12:28] Monica: Oh, it's so needed. And I agree with you. I, I see it with my own boys. They do lack something of, as much as I try to work with them, the reality is that they hide behind their phones and they do not know how to interact in the world, face-to-face, human to human. It is something that is missing I'm just glad you're there and you're gonna sort it out because it's needed. So bravo to you. So, one of the things here that we're trying to do here at the Kindling Project, because really, we wanna inspire women. We wanna ignite the little passion project and so [00:13:00] many women we feel are just really going through the motions and not really fully living their fullest. Selves. And when we say this, I'm always careful because I am never disrespecting women who, who are deciding that they are stay-at-home moms. I think that's a beautiful thing. I'm always just asking. Can we stop to ask? Can we add ourselves to the very long to-do list and add ourselves to that and say, what is it that I want? What is it that I need? How do I wanna feel today? And just answering those questions to ignite that little passion that perhaps lies in you. So what do you say to women, holly, as you are navigating through and a lot of these moms you're working with now is what, what do you think that they need to hear?
[00:13:39] Holly: First of all, I think that it's important that women start to give verbal permission, flip to one another to talk about what we need and what we want. It is okay to say, this is what I need in the moment, this is what I want in the moment, and unfortunately, Societally, women have [00:14:00] played such a strong force and at times have had to sacrifice the softer persona that has needs and has wants in order to put forward this persona of strength. I have it under control. Everything is great. Don't let them see you cry. All of the things. So that's the first thing, is to give permission to other women to talk about what they need and what they want. And the easiest way to do that is in our everyday conversations, ask each other, what do you need right now? What do you want? Right now I cannot even begin to describe the number of times I have had hardships in the last couple of years. And two of my closest girlfriends, when I go to them and open up and vent about something, They will consistently ask me, and I do the same for them, what do you need right now? And sometimes it is a question I can answer right away because I've thought about it, but most of the time it checks me right out of those emotions for a moment and has me answer [00:15:00] the question for myself, and it stops that internal cycle and dialogue of help I'm stuck, I'm frustrated, I'm sad. I don't know what to do. I'm incapable, whatever the thoughts are internally. So that's, that's the first component is asking each other that. And the second thing I would say is for us as women to become more skilled than ever in our vocabulary we use to describe our thoughts, our feelings, and our emotions. This is what's gonna help us raise our young people. This is what's going to help us in our relationships. So here's what I mean by knowing your vocabulary when it comes to emotions. Brene Brown put a great book out less than two years ago called Atlas of the Heart. And Atlas of the Heart serves as a reference book that describes different vocabulary that we can be using to talk about how I feel, what I want, what I need, how I'm thinking. And oftentimes people can be asked, how do you feel about something? And they say, I don't know. It's not that they don't [00:16:00] know, it's that they don't have the words for it. And so in her book, she talks about research shows. The majority of people only describe their emotions as happy, sad, or angry. And it's not because they only experience happiness, sadness, and anger. It's because they don't have the words for it. So part of my mission is to increase that emotional literacy. So in her book, she lays out term by term. What does it mean to experience sadness? Or to experience joy or elation as compared to happiness? And those 72 common terms that are used in therapy and counseling sessions. That's a good place to start. Increasing the vocabulary. And when we are with our young people, with our family, and we ask someone, how do you feel? What do you want? What do you need? And they go, I don't know. Maybe a great backup question is, do you think you don't know or do you think you just don't know the word for it? And when I ask my teenage clients that, and when I ask their moms or some dads that question, [00:17:00] nine times outta 10, it's, I don't have the word for it. So I ask them to try to describe it using some other sensory. I will ask them something like, well, what do you think it looks like the feeling that you're feeling? So focus on the sight. What do you think it sounds like, no. It sounds like a freight train. It sounds like a river that's going over a waterfall. What does it feel like in your bodies? So I try to give them other ways in their senses to describe the feeling.
[00:17:29] Monica: I feel like when you just said it, my next question was like, how can we use emotional intelligence to find our purpose? You just told me. Have the vocabulary. Cuz if we can't start there, we can't start putting it into words, into action. So that's really beautiful. So if you could leave our listeners with a little nugget of wisdom, like one piece that everyone's gonna remember you for, for the ladies listening. What, what is it?
[00:17:52] Holly: I had one ready to go and now I need to give a two. And it's gonna be really quick, I promise. Number one, purpose and calling [00:18:00] are not the same thing. If you are searching for your purpose, sometimes purpose can feel so big because purpose is why are you here living the life that you are living? What is that? However, we are all evolving individuals. Every single time, some of us are not the same person we were six months ago, six years ago, six decades ago. And so give yourself permission to keep uncovering your purpose and know that with every season of your life, your calling in a different season, your calling, the way you express your purpose may look different, but at the root of it, your purpose will be a seamless string all the way. So focus on the calling of the season. And the second piece of advice I would give is to trust yourself that you are more resourceful than you think. You are intelligent enough to look it up and Google it. You are resourceful enough to meet the people you need to meet to get the advice that you need to get. It is all out there waiting [00:19:00] for you to go discover it and you are fully capable of seeking out and receiving the help, support, advice that you need to nail down your season's calling and take an action step.
[00:19:11] Monica: Oh, I love that. I love that because for so many of our listeners , the feedback, well, we don't even know where to start. Well, we don't know how to do this, but you just said is like, we all do have the power and as simple as what, to your point, like Google it, you can start. It's all there and for the taking, so that's really incredible. Now gimme a little bit more about your world, Holly, as far as emotional intelligence, what have you also discovered in your teaching that is absolutely worth sharing?
[00:19:41] Holly: When it comes to emotional intelligence, I would say that first I've discovered that as a woman, I don't give myself enough credit for how much knowledge I have about this subject. I point that out because I think it's something that maybe other women might relate to. [00:20:00] You as an expert in whatever it is you are passionate about, you have the ability to teach someone who needs to be pulled up to your level. You don't have to be the expert, you don't have to be the guru. And that is part of emotional intelligence. That is part of my self-awareness. Here's what I know for certain, here are the tools I'm aware of and I feel comfortable with. Also it's part of emotional intelligence because it's part of social awareness where I can look around and say, okay, I'm just looking to serve someone who is a step behind me and I'm capable of supporting them up the one step. It doesn't have to be about saving the entire planet in one false swoop, although I'm excited to do that too. But I've learned that I can look around the world and stop assuming that everyone knows as much as I do. This is something that I am. Joyfully obsessed with emotional intelligence and relationships and communication and people and young people. And not everyone has that. And that's one of my gifts and that's something I think people can also use to [00:21:00] discover their purpose. What are you joyfully obsessed with?
[00:21:02] Monica: The name of my blog, is Togetherjoy for that reason, because I think that's where it lies in that joy and the joyous of it all. So personally for you, what brings you pride and satisfaction and what brings you pure joy beyond connecting with people.
[00:21:18] Holly: Organizing. Yeah, decluttering and organizing brings me a level of freedom that feels so nice and I can breathe in my world and in my profession is that women, our environment talks to us because we were at one point prehistorically gatherers in the meadow, and as women gatherers in the meadow, we had to pay attention to every single detail that was there because if we didn't, we could pick the wrong food and feed it to our family and the wrong food literally would be life or death for our family. So it is in our D n A for our environment to talk to us and a tidier environment, a less cluttered environment and an organized environment. And my thoughts too, decluttering [00:22:00] my thoughts, organizing my thoughts. That brings me more clarity, that brings me more creativity. It kind of like takes the meadow and cleans out the meadow. So the only thing that's left is the stuff that I can pick, feed to myself, feed to my family, and thrive on. So I, I love that level of emotional freedom I feel through organization.
[00:22:21] Monica: And isn't it, oprah Winfrey always says, we are what our space is, meaning like it should really speak to us. And so it represents our lives in many ways. Tell me something, Holly, what what do you wanna be known most for in this world?
[00:22:36] Holly: Healing families through compassion, kindness, and understanding. That is the purpose. That's never changed and the callings have been, I did it as a middle school teacher. I did it as a high school teacher. I did it as an Olympic style weightlifting coach. I did it as a leadership development trainer. Now I'm doing this. I did it as a relationship coach. Now I'm working with young adults and their moms and teens. [00:23:00] This calling has changed over and over again as I have grown. And the purpose is still the same.
[00:23:05] Monica: When did you really know this though? Do you remember? Like was, was it a young age that you, this was just who you are? Like it's just who you are?
[00:23:14] Holly: That's a great way to put it. It's not that I had an epiphany moment of I wanna heal families and that's why I'm here. However, when I hear you say it in that way, this is just who I am. I think it has always been my nature. To be a peacemaker, a peacekeeper. An open individual and it stems from a childhood where my mom raised my brother and I pretty much on her own. And my parents split when I was three and my brother was one. So my mom being all the roles all the time, there was a lot of tumultuous moments growing up with her doing the best she can, but a very stressed out woman. Very stressed out for obvious [00:24:00] reasons, and it created a lot of unrest in the home, and it forced us as a family over the years to learn how to talk to one another, how to understand one another, how to be curious instead of judgmental with one another. So it is inherently who I am because of how I grew up, but I didn't have words for that to describe it in this way until later in life.
[00:24:23] Monica: It's exhausting too though, isn't it, Holly? Because you're constantly giving, you're so patient, you're the one that's listening. You are the one that's, you know, taking the words and connecting it for people, and you're helping them see things, and you're constantly holding the mirror up for others to see themselves and to help and improve. What about you? What, what do you do for yourself who fill you up?
[00:24:47] Holly: That's a really great question. I think it's partly myself and my own habits, and it's partly the people in my life that fill me up. And for many years I think I [00:25:00] created bitterness or resentment because I expected the others in my life to help me feel better first. I didn't recognize that as unhealed codependency for a very long time, but once I recognized what it was and made the commitment to myself that I must find ways and have routines in my life where I am committed to nurturing my mind and my soul and replenishing myself for a moment in an easy, realistic way, then things became smoother. So how I do that now is when I am taking clients and helping people and supporting them, I do structure my time where I have breaks between calls or, for example, I will take clients all day long on a Tuesday, which I call a people-ing day. But then Wednesday will be a non-people day. That will be a day where I will not book meetings. I won't, you know, I'll do what I have to do for my family, but I'm not intaking other people's life because I need to allow myself [00:26:00] to reset.
[00:26:01] Monica: I think what I'm hearing you say is that yes, you give, but when you, when you reset, you go inward and it's all, those feelings, you're still controlling your navigating. You're not looking for other people to fill your bucket. You're feeling your own bucket. And I think that's so important to decipher cuz so many people are out there are, to your point, are walking around like. Resentful, angry. Like, why aren't they doing for me? And why are they, why are they making me feel this way? And I'm so quickly learning that, why are we giving our feelings away to someone else? We control our feelings, right? Like, this past few weeks I've had sort of a tough time with community members and I feel like how I said that I'm letting them steal my joy and letting them control how I feel? No, no, no, no, no. I get to control how I feel. You know, but it's such a normal thing to do, right? To let 'em infiltrate you and get in your head, and all of a sudden you're acting and doing. Based on others, which makes no sense emotionally though, that's where someone like you comes in. [00:27:00] It's like, can I self-regulate and cut that off faster? And now that's all I'm working on. They still pop up. It's like, can I cancel that thought and move on? Before I used to let it linger and linger and linger.
[00:27:12] Holly: Brilliant. So brilliant and so well said. Because I have found the same thing. I, I literally woke up this morning as somebody replied to a Facebook story telling me that they feel like I'm talking down to them and they're going to unfriend me now. And this is an actual real life friend. That's not the way I wanna start my day. You know, like after I had already done all of my mindset work and the things that I do to take care of myself, and then I finally sit down to start to work and boom, there it is. And I'm like, no. Like, but your point about self-regulating faster. That is a win. And I think if we can look back over the last one year, let's say, and say yes, I've become more adept, more skilled at more efficiently [00:28:00] quieting down, coming to my senses, becoming self-aware, handling my emotions in the moment. That is a win. And I also wanna put a disclaimer on what you and I are talking about in this moment, because there are going to be people that will hear you and I talk about this and say, yeah, but that person like, yeah, for real, I know my emotions and I can handle it. But they really don't step up. They really don't do anything. You know, Monica, nor I, I imagine everyone, we're not here to negate people in your life and, and, and say that they are, you know, that what you're saying is not true about them. It could very well be true that that person is not standing up for it. But it's important to, yes, demand personal responsibility from them for their actions and their way that they express. But we also have to be responsible for our emotions, how we express. Ourselves, I, it's not fair to ask of others what we will not ask of ourselves. [00:29:00]
[00:29:00] Monica: Amen. Sister, you said it. There you go. Well, listen, Holly, I could talk to you forever and I'm definitely gonna have you back because I feel like we just barely touch on things. I mean, I could sit and talk with just one of your responses I could spend hours and hours unpacking. So thank you so much for being here and sharing some of your wisdom with us. But before we take off, please tell people how can they work with you? Where do they find you?
[00:29:25] Holly: Thank you for having me. This has been, oh my gosh. I'm excited to come back and do more. The easiest way to get in touch with me is through my website, hollyberube.com/connect. That is going to take them to part of my website that has all of my links to Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. I have made thousands of videos short form, long form over the years. Also, it'll also guide them to my free Facebook group for parents of teens and young adults called the Holly Berube podcast Insiders. And also by going to that page, they can download a [00:30:00] free gift that I've created. It's a PDF download called 10 Ways to Help Your Teenager Build Resilience and Emotional Intelligence.
[00:30:08] Monica: I need that.
[00:30:08] Holly: Not that anyone needs that yet. Yeah. hollyberube.com/connect. It's just the spelling of my name.
[00:30:14] Monica: Okay, that is great. And we're gonna put everything on the show notes. For sure. And Holly, before we take off, we'd like to sign off the show with a final shout out to anyone who's kindled your fire this week. So go at it.
[00:30:27] Holly: Hmm. My best friend in the world, Nicole Herman, has been a sounding board for me. That has been great. My friend Dana Thomas, she has been great. Those are the people that ask me consistently, what do you need and what do you want? So they have kindled the fire and reminded me that I'm doing the best I can with what I have, and that it is enough. That has been very, very supportive to hear that from other human beings.
[00:30:52] Monica: That's beautiful. Okay, well my shout out this week is to you, Holly. I mean, it's been so, I don't do this all the time, I'm gonna tell [00:31:00] you, but you've really said some things that really resonated with me and I, I just feel like the work you're doing with teenagers, it's so important and so critical. Mama's out there, look up Holly. Girls, you know, we need this help. Don't even try to pretend we don't because we do. It takes a community, it takes a village, and you are leading the way. So I really appreciate the work you're doing. So thank you so much.
[00:31:24] Holly: I appreciate it, and I, and I receive that and I look forward to supporting anyone however I can.
[00:31:30] Monica: Okay, great. Well, ladies, remember, it only takes one spark to ignite the fire within.